Vekt på 617 og 606 motor?

[Rolf J]

Hei,

Er det noen som vet vekta på en 617 5-sylinderet 3 liter sugediesel 88 hester motor. Kan det stemme med 244 kg?


Og hva med vekta på en 606 24 ventilert 6 sylindret 3 liter sugediesel 136 hester motor?


mvh Rolf

[Rossi]

Er nok ganske avhengig av hva du mener med motor vil jeg tro. Komplett med pumpe o s v, eller kun selve blokka med topp? Mener å huske at komplett turbodieselmotor med "alt" og girkasse ligger rundt 450kg ifølge en på et annet forum som hadde veiet sin motor. 244Kg er nok ganske strippet utgave tror jeg..

[tHaWuLf]

http://www.benzforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11874

"I did just ship my 300td Turbo engine up from Dallas, and it clocked in at 630 pounds at teh DHL dock. That's with everything but a starter and an alternator on it."

285 kg, uten startmotor og dynamo, og uten girkasse antar jeg ut i fra dette her.


Annen artig side:

http://fixrambler.com/engineweightchart.txt
http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/archive/i...16201.html'

"Mercedes SOHC V8 alum. 452 (2)
Mercedes SOHC V8 iron 540 (2)
Mercedes 5.6L V8 467 (57) 1987
Mercedes OM 615 Diesel 447 (16)
Mercedes M291 flat-12 374 (66) with starter, alt, exh, no clutch
Mercedes 2.8/4.2 V6 331 (127) 1997, SOHC 3V, "shipped for assembly"
Mercedes inline six 441 (127) 1995 and back
Mercedes 500I V8 305 (46) 1994 pushrod Turbo Indy motor (Penske)
Mercedes/Ilmor Indy V8 273 (57, 60) 72 deg V Turbo Indy motor
Mercedes/Ilmor DOHC V8 280 (89) 1995 IC 108 model, no clutch
Mercedes/Ilmor IC108C 280 (130) 1996 DOHC V8
Mercedes 3.2L V6 330 (141) 1997 SOHC, 90 deg, 3 valve
Mercedes 5.8L V12 490 (143) 1997, 3 valve
Mercedes V10 F1 290 (210) 1994"

i pounds : ) 3.2 liter V6'en vi har i W211'en veier 150-170 kg : ) Det er forskjell fra gamle støpejernsblokker.

[Rolf J]

Hei og takk for svar til begge.

Jeg var nok litt uklar i spørsmålet. Grunnen til at jeg spør er at dersom man skal sette i ny motor 606 i stedet for 617 har jeg forstått det slik at BT er opptatt at ny motor ikke er tyngre enn den gamle, dersom ikke også fjær må byttes til kraftigere.

Så jeg er nok mest interessert i å finne ut vektforskjellen på en 606 og en 617 (med eller uten girkasse).

mvh Rolf

[tHaWuLf]

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/Thre...606-weight

"[...] the engine (OM606). It's a bit under 200kg if I recall right. "

Det der er et anslag, og gjelder TD'en. Det tallet der er jo hyggelig, om det stemmer : ) Er det en aluminiumsmotor kanskje?

[Rolf J]

Ja, det er aluminimum blokk som sikkert gjør at det blir mindre vekt.

[Bilkar]

<!--quoteo(post=1630744:date=25 Sep 2011, 10:23:name=Rolf J)-->QUOTE(Rolf J @ 25 Sep 2011, 10:23) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Ja, det er aluminimum blokk som sikkert gjør at det blir mindre vekt.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

E da vel ikke alu motor, bare toppen det.!

[tHaWuLf]

http://www.4btswaps.com/forum/showthread.p...ne-info-I-found

"The following are cast-iron block, cast-iron head indirect-injected (IDI) engines. All are single overhead camshaft engines, with a timing chain connecting the crankshaft to the camshaft and to the injector pump drive gear. All have the OHC equivalent of solid lifters, requiring a valve adjustment performed every 15K miles. The OM61x engines listed below are the most common engines you will see in a U.S. M-B diesel, and did a lot to solidify the reputation M-B diesel engines have of lasting forever.
OM636.930 - 1.8l (I think) inline-4 n/a, used between 1953 and 1961. The OM636 and the OM621's are likely the same basic engine block, and are unique compared to other engines.
OM621.910 – 1.9l (I think) inline-4 n/a, used between 1958 and 1961.
OM621.914 - 1.8l (again, I think) inline-4 n/a, used between 1961 and 1962.
OM621.912 - 1.9l inline-4 n/a, 60hp, used between 1962 and 1965.
OM621.918 - 2.0l inline-4 n/a, 60hp, used between 1966 and 1967.
OM615.913 - 2.0l inline-4 n/a, 61hp, unknown age span. The OM615, OM616, and OM617 share a basic block design and construction (although there were many changes, including adding a cylinder in the OM617).
OM615.912 - 2.2l inline-4 n/a, 60hp, used between 1968 and 1973.
OM616.916 - 2.4l inline-4 n/a, 62hp, used between 1973 and 1976.
OM617.910 - 3.0l inline-5 n/a, 88hp, used between 1975 and 1976.
OM616.912 - 2.4l inline-4 n/a, 67hp, used between 1977 and 1983. Oil filter relocated as compared to 616.916, due to different chassis design.
OM617.912 - 3.0l inline-5 n/a, 88hp, used between 1977 and 1981. Oil filter relocated as compared to 617.910, due to different chassis design.
OM617.950 - 3.0l inline-5 turbocharged, 110hp, used between 1978 and 1980. Note that this is the only turbocharged 617 that did NOT have factory EGR equipment until mid 1980 production.
OM617.951 - 3.0l inline-5 turbocharged, 120hp, used between 1981 and 1985. EGR equipment added.
OM617.952 - 3.0l inline-5 turbocharged, 120hp, used between 1981 and 1985. Believed to be identical to 617.951, except for minor differences to accommodate the W123 chassis.

The following are cast-iron block, aluminum head indirect-injected (IDI) engines. Like the cast-iron engines, a timing chain connects a single overhead cam (except for the OM606, which has twin overhead cams and 4 valves per cylinder) and the injector pump drive gear to the crankshaft, but the OHC version of hydraulic lifters are used, eliminating the need for periodic valve adjustments. Some later engines have electronic controls for the EGR, and possibly for pump timing as well. All of the following engines share a basic block design and construction, although like the OM61x engines there were many changes. These engines share very little with prior designs.

OM601.921 - 2.2l inline-4 n/a, 72hp, used between 1984 and 1986.
OM603.961 - 3.0l inline-6 turbocharged, 148hp, used between 1986 and 1987.
OM603.960 - 3.0l inline-6 turbocharged, 148hp, used in 1987.
OM602.911 - 2.5l inline-5 n/a, 93hp, used between 1987 and 1989.
OM602.961 - 2.5l inline-5 turbocharged, 123hp, used in 1987.
OM602.962 - 2.5l inline-5 turbocharged, 123hp, used between 1990 and 1993. Believed to be identical to 602.961 except electronic controls for emissions reasons.
*OM603.970 - 3.5l inline-6 turbocharged, 134hp, used between 1990 and 1991.
*OM603.971 - 3.5l inline-6 turbocharged, 148hp, used between 1992 and 1994.
OM606.910 - 3.0l inline-6 n/a, 134hp, used in 1995
OM606.912 - 3.0l inline-6 n/a, 134hp, used in 1997. Believed to be identical to 606.910 except for minor differences to accommodate a different chassis.
OM606.? - 3.0l inline-6 turbocharged, 174hp, used between 1998 and 1999."

[Rolf J]

Takker for avklaring. Jeg var nok litt kjap.

mvh Rolf